by davekuhns
Yes. And why I love Filch so much.↧
Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: A question about Filch, a small scenario to help illustrate.
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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: A question about Filch, a small scenario to help illustrate.
by Painkeeper
TooNu wrote:
Filch wields a spear with both hands and a dagger with his tail. The spear confers a +1 battle dice, the dagger confers a -1 battle dice on minions below Filch on the initiative track.
You may attack with only 1 weapon, no matter how many you wield. So either Filch attacks withe spear to get +1 attack dice, or he attacks with the dagger negating 1 defense die.
TooNu wrote:
If Filch is higher on the initiative track, he has a single piece of cheese, and stands adjacent to 3 rat warriors. 1) He fights a rat warrior he gets 3 dice (2 regular battle dice +1 from the spear) 2) the rat rolls only 1 defense dice (minus 1 from the dagger). 3) The rat dies and Filch can claim a cheese from the minion wheel giving him 2 pieces of cheese total.
4) Filch then uses his ability Energy Rush to attack the second rat, he pays the 2 cheese. The fight results as the same as the first rat, he claims a cheese from the cheese wheel.
5) Colin's turn and he uses his give orders ability to give filch an extra action, paying 1 cheese to do so. Filch then uses his action to attack the 3rd rat resulting in the same fight with the same outcome, claiming a 3rd piece of cheese.
6) The results of this are that Filch killed 3 rat warriors, ended with 2 cheese tokens AND cleared 3 pieces of cheese from the minion wheel.
Does this situation look correct? I ask because I read that you can't use the abilities of 2 weapons at the same time and now I am a little confused as to what the role of Filch's prehensile tail would be if not to add the dagger advantage?
edit: cheese math :)
Yes, Filch ability to wield a worth of 3 hands of equipment is less tempting that it seems. However it does came useful on the versatility side sometimes (for example with the lash/whip that let you ignore water and trap spaces). Also, there's a skill (can't remember the name) that let Filch attack with all the daggers he is wielding. Of course, you have to be really lucky in finding other 2 beyond the one you get for free as a starting item.
I think that Filch's true strength relies mainly in his other ability (gaining cheese through kills and stealing cheese to rats).
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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: A question about Filch, a small scenario to help illustrate.
by Archr
The end result of the scenario you gave can happen, except both 1) and 2) cannot happen on the same attack. I believe, and I think the link Jason gave backs it up, that you have to choose which weapon you are attacking with (multiple equipped weapons don't stack). So you can either attack with 3 dice from the spear, or with 2 dice from the dagger and the minion gets -1 defense.To answer your question about the dagger in the tail, the before mentioned link goes into detail about the knife strike ability that lets you attack with multiple weapons (resolved separately).
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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: A question about Filch, a small scenario to help illustrate.
by Woelf
TooNu wrote:
Does this situation look correct? I ask because I read that you can't use the abilities of 2 weapons at the same time and now I am a little confused as to what the role of Filch's prehensile tail would be if not to add the dagger advantage?
A big advantage of Filch's prehensile tail is that he can equip two completely different weapons at the same time. I like to keep the dagger in his tail for melee combat but then put a bow of some sort in his hands so he always has the option to attack even if he's too far away from an enemy to use the dagger.
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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: A question about Filch, a small scenario to help illustrate.
by TooNu
Hello :) and thank you for the great replies, it is clearer to me now so cheers for that. Happy new year!↧
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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Some questions about Chapter 11 **SPOILERS!**
by youperguy
I'll try to help.1) special surges only happen once per room.
2) there are special explore rules in this chapter. You can explore in some rooms without clearing minions, if you do there are minions left behind, and they can move between tiles! Look under special chapter rules and the rules for the rooms with water.
3) damage does not move between initiative cards.
4) it depends on the order or encounter cards. If the first card says 3 elite rats and the second 4 rats then place elite rats and 3 rats. If the first card says 4 rats and the second card says 3 elite rats, then place 4 rats and 2 elite rats.
5) in setup 1 the pipes
6) yes you would need to find him a weapon, or just give him Colin's sword.
7) in your example it would be 5 dice. Power shot doubles her base battle not her modified battle.
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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Initial minion placement?
by RMGreen
Targanth wrote:
If you want, they can all go on one space, or you may spread them out in any way that you like.
I'm pretty sure the rule block you quoted contradicts this:
3. One at a time, place all small melee minions on the
remaining available (not full) minion entry spaces.
Players choose which spaces to use if multiple
options are available. Try to spread these melee
minions out as much as possible. (emphasis added)
remaining available (not full) minion entry spaces.
Players choose which spaces to use if multiple
options are available. Try to spread these melee
minions out as much as possible. (emphasis added)
You must try to spread out the small minions as much as possible. That means you cannot put them all on one space if there are other open minion entry spaces. After each available entry space has a minion on it, additional minions that still need to be placed can then be doubled-up as the players choose. Once each space has two, then start adding a third minion to each space, and so on.
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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Chapter 5 - Brodie question and some other thing that has been nagging me
by Chudley
harlequin1 wrote:
If filch has three daggers equipped (one in his tail), can he use the knife fight ability to make three attacks (the card says one attack per knife or dagger equipped)?
Yes. Just like the card says. Just pay the cheese and go berserk.
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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: A question about Filch, a small scenario to help illustrate.
by youperguy
I like the dagger and the toothpick. Attack with the tigger and use the toothpick for defense.↧
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Thread: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Placing minions - chapter two, specifically
So the rules say to spread small, melee minions out as much as possible. We ran into a situation where our three mice heroes (Lilly still being caught in the mousetrap) were standing on a minion starting space. Normally the four of them would take up all the room, but when there's three does one start right there on the space with them? That seems weird thematically.
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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Placing minions - chapter two, specifically
by RMGreen
I'm totally with you on this one. By the book, it seems that you should place a minion on that space with the mice. But I agree that thematically that doesn't quite feel right to me. This has been brought up once or twice before, but I've never seen Jerry Hawthorne (the designer) weigh on on the intent.My gut says that he probably doesn't care either way and you should play it how it's more fun for you. Unfortunately, that's a less-than-satisfactory answer for those of us who love our rules. ;^)
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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Placing minions - chapter two, specifically
by Chudley
I usually put the rat on the space with the mouse. I believe it does make sense thematically. Why wouldn't the rats be posted at the most likely enemy approach? Why can't the rats ambush mice?My 5 cents.
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Thread: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: If a hero mice does no damage, does the minion still roll defense dice?
by rashktah
Or vice versa?Even without rolling for real defence, the model could still roll one or more cheese.
So, is defence rolled even when there's no damage done?
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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: If a hero mice does no damage, does the minion still roll defense dice?
by zenxacred
rashktah wrote:
Or vice versa?
Even without rolling for real defence, the model could still roll one or more cheese.
So, is defence rolled even when there's no damage done?
Even without rolling for real defence, the model could still roll one or more cheese.
So, is defence rolled even when there's no damage done?
since you're technically not attacking, they're not defending. ;)
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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: If a hero mice does no damage, does the minion still roll defense dice?
by Beloch
Rules p11:"If a mouse inflicted one or more hits, the player to the left
of the active player rolls defense"
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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: If a hero mice does no damage, does the minion still roll defense dice?
by Chudley
Beloch wrote:
Rules p11:
"If a mouse inflicted one or more hits, the player to the left
of the active player rolls defense"
"If a mouse inflicted one or more hits, the player to the left
of the active player rolls defense"
To clarify, if you don't hit; there is no need to defend.
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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: If a hero mice does no damage, does the minion still roll defense dice?
by rashktah
Superb, thank you guys! :)↧