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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Stunning/webbing and wounds.


Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Stunning/webbing and wounds.

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Stunning/webbing and wounds.

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by AernoutMJC

batman15 wrote:

Thank you.

Never, ever thank the Centipede for doing so. Teach it a lesson so it won't try it again!

;)

Thread: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Special Surge question

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by batman15

If a board has a special surge, like Brodie in the kitchen, and you have already surged one time, if you surge a second time is it also a special surge? Would Brodie come back a second time if defeated during the first surge?

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Special Surge question

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Special Surge question

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by az933k

Someone else feel free to correct me if I am wrong here, but it is my understanding that the intent is that a surge, any surge, is only supposed to happen once per tile.

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Special Surge question

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by Chiken Bird

The hourglass still moves, you just don't put any more minions out.

In the OPs case, special surge or not, no other minions are placed on the board. Move the hourglass up a page, clear the cheese off the wheel, and proceed with the first player on the initiative track.

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Special Surge question

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by Reizendensetsu

As far as I know a surge does not occur twice in the same tile, even if it is a special surge (even though the manual doesn't specifically mention what happens for special surges). I believe you only move the time marker, that's how I play it here.

Though the manual is a bit confusing when it states "If there are no room-specific surge rules and no face-up encounter card, no minions are placed for this surge, but the hourglass marker is still moved.", cause when a surge happens and you follow the special surge rules, that special surge is not discarded... so it stills there.

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Chapter 1: Kitchen question

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by Sporatik

I know that Tabletop is not always the best way to go about some rules and I did not watch part two of this episode but, they mention that going to the kitchen is a good way to earn a lot of cheese.

I thought this sounded like you were going to be able to get the cheese somehow?

I ended up reaching "The End" on my first play with one roach still on the counter and cat sending me over the edge by capturing one of my characters...

Anyway, now that I type this out I see I'll have to keep reading on this one. I did notice it says nothing about the cheese in the book, but then what's the point of those roaches on the counter with the cheese? It just keeps them up there for a few rounds while you try to kill everything?

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Thread: Mice and Mystics:: General:: Expansion Items and even Heroes in Base Game Campaign?

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by Skeffington

Hey people,

I bought Mice & Mystics and all the expansions. Now I am wondering if you can use the items from the expansions in the base game. Do they make the game too easy or are some even incompatible as they require expansion stuff to work properly?

Also do you use the expansion heroes in the base game campaign?

Thanks for sharing your views on this

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: General:: Re: Expansion Items and even Heroes in Base Game Campaign?

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by Chiken Bird

The story campaign is designed to be played and added in the proper order. However each expansion is designed to have backwards compatibility.

You can play the expansion items with the base game. I'm not sure if it changes the difficulty but it will create some discontinuity in the storyline.

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: General:: Re: Expansion Items and even Heroes in Base Game Campaign?

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by Hahma

As Scott mentioned, the story campaign is meant to be played in order of release with the cards and heroes of that release.

The expansions were meant to be backward compatible with item cards and heroes, but the story part won't line up as well. But with that said, even when playing in order, often the story moments written for a chapter include a mouse that you don't currently have in play, so I've just pretended that those mice were along with us, but not being controlled by players.

Personally, I would suggest playing the game in order of release first, and then after getting through all three releases, then go back and mix everything up. This will give you a better sense of the intended story progression, as well as a lot more replayability value.

Thread: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Question about Brodie attacking Rats and rats rolling cheese on defense

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by batman15

We were playing chapter 3 today and all the mice and rats were on the counter when Brodie came into play. Brodie pounced and it is our understanding that both the mice and the minions in the space get attacked by that pounce. On three of the rat defense rolls they rolled cheese. Does that cheese get added to the wheel? The wife says no because Brodie has text that says cheese isn't added to the wheel when Brodie attacks or defends. I was thinking yes because it wasn't being added on one of Brodie's rolls. How should it be played?

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Question about Brodie attacking Rats and rats rolling cheese on defense

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by RMGreen

I say yes, the cheese on the rat's defense rolls should be added to the wheel. The text on Brodie refers only to Brodie's rolls, not the rolls of those defending from his attacks.

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Question about Brodie attacking Rats and rats rolling cheese on defense

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Mice and Mystics Rule Clarifications

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by Tyrnix

During the rescue of Lilly when you pop up to the dining room for the fork and then head back down to the caves, do bad guys reappear? You cleared them once to get to the dining room, do they repopulate?


You only place minions when you explore into a tile you haven't been to before.

If you roll a one for the minion movement in the courtyard do they get killed by the crow? One wound would kill them.


The crow makes no discrimination; minions get picked off too.

While in the tree after visiting Barksberg, if you roll a one for movement, is there any reason to move out of the tree? It would mean an auto hit, so I just choose to stay put until I rolled a two or more. Is that legal? We chilled until the crow killed most of the bad dudes.


You're safe under the old oak tree. Moving is always optional but the roll to determine your movement must always be done at the start of your mouse's turn. If you roll a '1' from under the tree, you take no wound and may move back into the courtyard but risk it with the crow on future turns.

Can Lilly attack into the other room tiles or does she just sit there until we get there? Can she only attack the cockroach in her area? Once it is dead is she literally stuck and one player is doing nothing?


Lilly can only see into spaces adjacent to the oak tree space. If the roach is in one of those spaces she can attack it, otherwise, she'll have to move back into the courtyard to attack it.

If a dagger isn't +1 then is there an advantage to holding two? There is a scamp power which does affect all bladed weapons you are holding, but I don't get to roll extra die with two daggers, right?


Right. You can only attack with one weapon you have equipped; you don't get to add the other weapons' bonuses or powers to the attack. Knife Strike allows you to make a separate attack with each weapon; you don't add them together.

If a room has a special surge of the cat, does he show up only during a surge? What about if he is defeated and there is another surge? Does he come back?


Surges only happen once per tile. If Brodie appeared because of a surge and you defeated him, he won't show up again when you surge again but you still have to advance the hourglass forward and remove the cheese from the wheel.

What exactly was the hook and thread for? You lose all party items after chapter 1. We got it, and then really did nothing with it, and now it is gone.


It's not gone permanently; you can get it in later chapters as a special search or if it comes up again randomly when you make a normal search. You can use it to cross spaces like a bridge and even enter spaces you normally couldn't. It can also get you out of water in a pinch without having to make a saving roll.

Can you collect the cheese on the kitchen table when you are trying to get the cook's attention (6 pieces distracting the cockroaches) or are they not obtainable?


It's for the roaches only. Once there are no more roaches, you remove it from the kitchen.

Can I leave the kitchen to the courtyard through the opening in the wall or did I have to go back down into the tunnels?


You'll re-enter the tunnel entrance. The only way to finish the chapter is to have all the mice on the tree and no minions on the courtyard at the same time.

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: General:: Re: Expansion Items and even Heroes in Base Game Campaign?

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by Omega2064

There is an older thread from a week or two ago about this where some of the ins and outs of using the expansion characters in the preceeding adventures.

Some of the issues are.

The expansion characters are not mentioned in the chapters. They are playable. But may or may not feel out of place. YMMV there.

Search cards will have the same issues. Some are neutral and some are themed. Also a YMMV thing.

Minions and the rest are going to probably pose problems the most. Some are themed to their locations and may be hard to explain why they are present. Another YMMV issue.

The biggest drawback may be that it waters down the search and encounter decks and homogenized the gameplay too much. You go from having different environments with their own quirks, to a mundane sameness. Very YMMV of course.

Personally I dont feel that treating a game like this like a card game where you fold in the expansions works for Mice and Mystics or any other adventure game where regions add uniqueness. Shadows of Brimstone is another example where folding in the expansions doesnt feel right.

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: General:: Re: how about a dice app at least?

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Dastardly Old Crow question (minor spoiler for Chapter One)

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by Sporatik

Regarding the minion movement. If there are 3 Rat Warriors on the tile, do you roll once for each minion or one roll for all minions? This would carry over for the rest of the game but I just can't seem to find the clear answer.

For example, I just rolled a 1 for the 3 Rat Warriors against the Old Crow. Are they all now dead at once or should I roll for each?
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