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Thread: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: chapter 1 questions I couldn't find the answer for

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by j-train1

When falling into the sewers from tile 1, do you start in the water?

When in the water can you climb on the ledge without the fishhook?
a.Do you really need it?
b.It is the first thing you find when searching?
c.Do you keep the item for the next chapter?

When you finish the kitchen subquest and all the enemies are dead, do you stay on initative when you drop down to the tunnels?




Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: What are the most commonly misplayed rules? Here's what we did wrong...

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by OneBagTravel

Hahma wrote:


Regarding Cheese Allotment - It says in italics on page 10 under Battle:

Whenever a player is attacking or defending with a mouse, if one or more cheese symbols are rolled, that mouse gains 1 cheese token for each cheese rolled.

Bold emphasis mine. Cheese rolled for mice when attacking or defending go to the mouse who's turn it is.

On page 11, second paragraph on the top left, in italic:

Whenever a player is attacking or defending for a minion, if 1 or more cheese symbols are rolled, add one cheese token to the minion wheel on the story control board for each cheese rolled.

Bold emphasis mine. Cheese rolled for minions when they attack or defend go on the cheese wheel.


I'm getting back into Mice and Mystics (it's been months since I've played) and for some reason I thought the rules were cheese is only added to the cheese wheel during battle if the minion is attacking. But it looks like my memory is wrong and it's when the minion is attacking or defending.

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: chapter 1 questions I couldn't find the answer for

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by davekuhns

1. yes.
2. yes, just like any other water you'll end up in. There's rules for that (roll and get at least one *)
a. no, but it helps
b. yes, in the water, but not elsewhere on that or any other tile (the chapter will tell you)
c. no, though you may randomly find it, or find it based on the story.

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: chapter 1 questions I couldn't find the answer for

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by RMGreen

j-train1 wrote:

When falling into the sewers from tile 1, do you start in the water?
Yes. Reference page 13 in the rulebook under the heading 'Exploring a Flip Space'

j-train1 wrote:

When in the water can you climb on the ledge without the fishhook?
Yes. Reference page 10 in the rulebook under the heading 'Moving in Water'.

j-train1 wrote:

a.Do you really need it?
No, but it does make it much easier to get out of the water.

j-train1 wrote:

b.It is the first thing you find when searching?
I believe that so long as the Special Search has not yet been claimed, you have the option to find it, or to find a regular search card. So it's up to you.

j-train1 wrote:

c.Do you keep the item for the next chapter?
Assuming you're playing the game as a campaign, the answer is no. Party items like the Fishhook and Thread are not kept between chapters. Reference page 19 of the rulebook under the heading 'Playing Mice and Mystics as a Campaign'.

j-train1 wrote:

When you finish the kitchen subquest and all the enemies are dead, do you stay on initative when you drop down to the tunnels?
Yes. Unless the rules state to re-deal the initiative track (which is generally only done when minions are added to the track when no minions were on it previously) then keep the same initiative order when going back to a previously-explored tile.


Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: chapter 1 questions I couldn't find the answer for

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by Alderdust

a.
When you attempt to climb on the ledge you must roll a * if you do you suceed and end your move out of the water however if you fail to roll a start you are swept downstream...remember you cannot move against the current.

b.
I believe you can choose to take the fish hook and thread or can choose to take a card from the search deck

c.
if you are playing campaign you do not keep the item in the next chapter but as long as you pick up the fish hook before leaving the tile you are on you keep it for the chapter.

d.
you stay on initiative and that means if you get to the end and there are no minions in the tunnel you must add cheese to the cheese wheel.

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: General:: Re: Good for an adult couple game?

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by RMGreen

Claustrophobia is a fun game. But regarding the current discussion, it's worth noting that it's pretty different from Mice and Mystics. It's theme is entirely different, and it's a competitive two player game rather than a cooperative 2-4 player game.

Thread: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Several questions about Cheese and Encounter Cards

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by OutOfHabit

Can you confirm that cheese is to be added to the cheese wheel at all of these times?:
1. After the last mouse takes its turn each round.
2. After the last minion is defeated on a tile, but before leaving that tile.
3. When a minion rolls a cheese as part of battle (attack or defense).

And cheese is earned:
4. Every time a mouse rolls cheese, whether for attack or for movement

And Encounter Cards:
5. None are flipped during the first tile of a chapter?
6. During the first mouse's turn in each other tile in the chapter, an encounter card is shown?
7. The current encounter card stays until switching tiles?
8. The special surges occur even if there isn't an encounter card out?
9. The surges can cause minions to appear in a room that would have otherwise been cleared of minions and thus stop the mice from leaving the room?

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Several questions about Cheese and Encounter Cards

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by OneBagTravel

1. No
2. Yes (last enemy is defeated and your last mouse on the track has exhausted their actions)
3. Yes

4. Yes
5. You have to flip an encounter card to know what enemies will be on the board.
6. No, encounter card is only revealed at the start if each tile.
7. Yes
8. There's always an encounter card showing.
9. Yes if you kill all the minions and don't leave the tile in time as to where you restart the track adding te last cheese to the cheese wheel, you'll trigger a surge that you have to defeat before leaving.

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Several questions about Cheese and Encounter Cards

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by Hahma

1. Nope. Only after the last mouse takes its turn in a round when there are no minions on the tile (in that room).

2. Not always. The last minion can be defeated by the mouse at the top of the initiative track, and if the next mouse is in position to explore to the next tile, then they explore and no cheese is added. See answer to #1 for further clarification.

3. Yes. Though if the minion rolls a cheese when defending against Lily's bow, then the cheese for that defense roll goes to Lily's stash instead of the wheel. But that's a special case for her bow. Otherwise yes, cheese rolled by minions for attacking or defending goes to wheel. Also, something to keep in mind, cheese added to the wheels for this goes there immediately, so it can cause an immediate surge if it was the 6t4. h cheese.

4. No. Mice earn cheese for attack or defense rolls, NOT movement.

5. If there is a special setup with minions already on the tile, like in Chapter 1, then you don't flip an encounter card. If there is no special setup with minions already on the tile, then you do reveal an encounter card.

6. If a mouse explores into a tile that has a special setup with minions already on it, then no, you don't flip a new encounter card. If there are no minions on the newly explored tile, then yes you do flip a new encounter card.

7. The current encounter card stays until another encounter card is revealed, because the surge from that card can still be activated if it wasn't already. But if the surge from that card was activated, then you don't use that card any further.

8. Yes, but only once per tile. Surges after that will just move the hourglass marker up a page.

9. Yes. If you defeated the last minion on the tile, but it rolled a cheese on its defense roll and there were 5 cheese on the wheel, then that cheese would go to the wheel (even though the last minion was defeated) and cause a surge. Also, if you have 5 cheese on the wheel and have defeated all the minions on the tile, after your last mouse on the track takes its turn and the mice are still on that tile, you would add the 6th cheese to the wheel and have a surge.

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: surges question

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by OneBagTravel

Two options and I don't think either are officially stated. 1. Big minions squash all the minions and the small minions don't get placed. 2. If no minions can be placed then move the hour glass down one.

Edit: how did I miss Jerry's post? lol

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Several questions about Cheese and Encounter Cards

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by OutOfHabit

Whew! This game is going to seem like a cake walk when played correctly!

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: General:: Re: Good for an adult couple game?

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by ketchupgun

RMGreen wrote:

rather than a cooperative 2-4 player game.


I've also played M&M solo and it's equally great.

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: chapter 1 questions I couldn't find the answer for

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by j-train1

wow, you guys all replied with 10 minutes of each other.

thanks for the help.

That would explain why we lost so hard on chapter 1, due to drawing Encounter cards coming down from the kitchen.

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: chapter 1 questions I couldn't find the answer for

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by nobeerblues

j-train1 wrote:

wow, you guys all replied with 10 minutes of each other.

thanks for the help.

That would explain why we lost so hard on chapter 1, due to drawing Encounter cards coming down from the kitchen.
You on;y draw a new encounter card the first time you enter a tile during a chapter.

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Reply: Mice and Mystics:: General:: Re: painting service?

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by Huggable Zombie

As I just mentioned in my recent Dice Tower review, I'm looking to paint my M&M set as well. But if I can outsource that for an affordable price, I surely would trust someone with skill versus my hack talent.

ah heck I might as well cross-post it here too:
Youtube Video

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Several questions about Cheese and Encounter Cards

Reply: Mice and Mystics:: Rules:: Re: Reentering a tile

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by OneBagTravel

A question to piggy back off of this topic: if you reenter the tile and a mouse failed to successfully search that tile originally, can they now search on the tile? Given that at least one mouse further down the track can successfully explore the tile to move them to the next one without having to add any cheese to the cheese wheel [/runonsentence]

I only ask this because some of the people I play with are really into searching for objects and I'm anticipating this scenario happening in the future. :D

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